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Yeah, it's the iPad Pro, which is a bit pricey. I used to have a Wacom Cintiq (companion), which I got a good price for when the iPad Pro landed. Personally, I think the Cintiq is better, as it has friction between the tip and screen (like pencil and paper), but it was built on an Android tablet and the drawing apps were simply terrible.

I use the Procreate app on the iPad pro, which (at the moment) is simply without competition on any tablet.
 

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Daily scribble #2

A couple of 'unreferenced' pieces at the very initial sketch stage, mainly working out composition and colour ideas. Also in pencil on paper rather than directly on my iPad. To be fair not much difference, other than loads of eraser debris in my lap and constant sharpening. The images are about 140-160mm tall.

I'm trying to discipline myself to make more original designs by not looking at other visual material, tattoos or otherwise, while I'm working. I should stress that is just for the concept stage, I'll definitely be looking at some swan pictures to finalise that one. I am allowing myself to be influenced from memory, which I guess would be hard not to, and I have a kind of visual goal style in mind for the finals, based on my current heroes / heroines (Jody Dawber et al, Scragpie is another).
 
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Good question, will it work with the ipad 1 or 2? I have them sat playing games, kind of a waste.

Just grabbed this from Apple website:

No, the Apple Pencil is specifically designed to work with both sizes of the new iPad Pro models, and is not compatible with any iPhone, or any other iPad models.

The smaller (new) iPad Pro starts at £549.

I've definitely found over the years that Apple products have great resale value, especially with original packaging. Since V1 iPad I've always sold and upgraded, normally securing sales in hours (iPhones too). Maybe worth pricing your iPad up in eBay. Look for listings that have bids to see the 'actual' value customers place on the model.
 

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IMG_4619.JPG Daily scribble #3
Made the owl months ago, though not necessarily thinking tattoo. Few leaves and flowers and it would seem to fit the bill. Be adding colour as part of my Prismacolor training (which is why I re-worked it)...the new technology of pencils ✏️
 

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IMG_4707.JPG Daily scribble #4 and I'm feeling a style emerging in these unreferenced pieces. All those years of copying characters from the Beano (uk Comic) when I was a kid. Btw I am slowly colouring these pieces with coloured pencils.
 

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IMG_0184.JPG I've always liked this thread, let's keep it alive. Here's my latest offering(I'm always nervous to post, because there's some great artists here) Did this at work with standard scetch paper and prisma color pencils
 

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Nothing to be nervous of, really nice drawing! I agree with Jerry about the red parts though. They seem a little bit off in the drawing to me. But they're good for the composition, if you did something else with them or changed them it would look real nice I'm sure.

I miss this thread too although I haven't ever posted much here.
 

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Thanx for the feedback guys

Almost did more triangular tips, but in the end I decided on the spade shape.

To me I lost it a bit with the coloring. Had issues with blending and saturation. I see other people's colored pencil work and it looks so smooth, but I can't get the same effect. Maybe it's technique or maybe paper not sure
 

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I think it must be a mix of paper quality and technique. But mostly technique, or rather patience. But I have LOTS of patience when it comes to drawing, but doing smooth blending with color pencils is hopeless. But it could be that I don't like working with color, maybe I lack patience for just that :LOL: But give it a try! Probably only a matter of practice practice practice. And actually I think you're already doing pretty good.
 

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Only skimmed through the first few pages but honestly blown away with some of you guys artwork.....inspirational at best.
Looking at the level has just made me realise I need to up mine.
Awesome work guys and gals, i'm so glad I found this forum.
Just on a helpful note which I feel has helped me no end is Mike Sibleys "From line to life" book is an investment for graphite technique. I have bought a fair few books but his book is a complete other level to the rest.
You do need to go on his website and also buy the accompanying book which is in this link.......
https://www.sibleyfineart.com/drawing-from-line-to-life-beginners-ebook.htm

Probably a bit beginner level for you guys but his techniques are really good with graphite.
Also Jd Hillberry,i'm doing a combination of both of their techniques and training, it is progressing my drawing no end.
Anyway i'm sure you have your own paths and to be completely honest i'm blown away and excited to post some progress to get all your opinions.
Excellent work :D
 

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Here's what I've draw so far, most of them from online references with slight changes, I'm trying to do a sketch a day as a way to improve my technique.
There's a lot to improve and some of them to finish, i've been using hairspray to avoid any smudging but they ruin the drawings a bit (became much darker and loose detail), anyway i'm really struggling with the creative part (improvising) , i used to be able to do it really quickly but not nowdays , so weird, oh well hopefully this will improve with time and practice.
 

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Ooh you dug up this thread! Everyone used to postloads of drawings here, then it just stopped. Nice you found it! ???

Your drawings look pretty nice, I don't know how much experience you had from before, what level should be expected from you ? Imo thre rose you did with a technical pen is the best because you added some personal feeling to it. From what I can tell of the face of the mermaid that's something you need to practice a lot more on, if you're going to do more realistic style.

Good light source practice on the geometrical figures ???
 

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Ooh you dug up this thread! Everyone used to postloads of drawings here, then it just stopped. Nice you found it! ???

Your drawings look pretty nice, I don't know how much experience you had from before, what level should be expected from you ? Imo thre rose you did with a technical pen is the best because you added some personal feeling to it. From what I can tell of the face of the mermaid that's something you need to practice a lot more on, if you're going to do more realistic style.

Good light source practice on the geometrical figures ???

Aparently i love to dig up stuff ehehe, but this seemed a good thread, i used to do some portraits when i was 11 and then stopped completely xD , i've always been good building and creating stuff tho so i might have an artistic vein somewhere so drawing might be the next thing i need to practice on, regarding the drawings the rose i did it during a night shift actually in a nearly pitch black room eheheh turn out alright i guess is more realistic to a tattoo machine than the pencil (no erasing allowed), i agree with you the mermaid face and hair omg what a nightmare, and hands i defenitely need to practice human anatomy i really like the realistic style, oh well i'm still wondering what to draw today ehehehe, i hope we all start using this thread again it really looked amazing back on the day :p.
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Did this skull with roses a few days ago. I know they are awfull roses, I did it after work and it did reflect on the quality .
 

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Nice work Pedro...I think there is room for your darks to go even darker?
Thanks mate, I feel you, I used a 5b for the darker tones, probably next time I'll get the 8b, is the first portrait I've done in about 17years but I think is what I really fancy doing, next I need to try traditional pieces :p, well is it just me digging this thread?
 

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Thanks mate, I feel you, I used a 5b for the darker tones, probably next time I'll get the 8b, is the first portrait I've done in about 17years but I think is what I really fancy doing, next I need to try traditional pieces :p, well is it just me digging this thread?
Yeah nice one. I really like it (especially after 17 years) and just think a broader tonal range will do it more justice ?
 

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Good thing then that you know you can practice on roses ? Skull looks good, I think the jaw/teeth needs a little correction though. Upper and lower part are pointing in slightly different directions.

The Depp face - you really caught his looks, expression, eyes. That's excellent!!! Much more important, and difficult, than the hair. Hair is just a matter of practice.

And a lot more black needed overall ?
 

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Awesome! it does add more range ! We need to keep this thing a float mate! :p
Cheers mate, yeah definitely that’s a good shout! I don’t normally finish a drawing in a single sitting, I tend to get a bit done every night once the kids are in bed and sit with my wife whilst she’s watching tele. So probably a few more days to go on this one!
 

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Thank you malliga ! I didn't even realized the teeth I was so focused on the roses ahahah, the portrait needs improving but I'll get there, I'll add the 8b next time. I need to watch more tutorials on roses and hairs XD
 

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Cheers mate, yeah definitely that’s a good shout! I don’t normally finish a drawing in a single sitting, I tend to get a bit done every night once the kids are in bed and sit with my wife whilst she’s watching tele. So probably a few more days to go on this one!
I know what you mean, I've been trying to do one a day but life always gets on the way eheheh btw I fallow your advice, I ruin the nose but the rest did pop out more like you said ! Thanks !
 

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I know what you mean, I've been trying to do one a day but life always gets on the way eheheh btw I fallow your advice, I ruin the nose but the rest did pop out more like you said ! Thanks !
Awesome! I think that looks better! Nice one!

Yeah I just wanna draw and tattoo all the time. In reality I get about an hour a night ? gotta do what we can ay!
 

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Yeah I agree with MalligaMallan. I think you’re getting the shapes right, so it looks ok from a distance but zoomed in you can see how rushed it is. If you’re trying to do one a day why not do smaller images and spend more time on detail. Or work on the larger images but over a few sessions? I think that lion would look great if some time was spent on different textures and tonal values. Also with drawing fur, people get good results by drawing the clumps/groups of hair rather than individual hairs. There’s some really good videos on YouTube on drawing hair and fur.
 

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i agree malliga ehehe i'm really trying to draw one a day but probably small pieces likes chopper said and emphasize in quality, i've seen some on engraving hairs and then smudge with graphite or charcoal but i dont have to tool, i've tried a nail but it ruins the paper, how do you guys do it? thanks for the feedback ! :p
 

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Did another one to redeem myself, much more simple, the mix with pens and pencils are better but still, I feel that my 8b is not really dark enough, do you guys have the same problem ?
 

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Did another one to redeem myself, much more simple, the mix with pens and pencils are better but still, I feel that my 8b is not really dark enough, do you guys have the same problem ?
Lovely detail in the iris, I feel it is dark enough, sometimes for pure darks I would use black inks. Looks sweet so far.
 

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Lovely detail in the iris, I feel it is dark enough, sometimes for pure darks I would use black inks. Looks sweet so far.
thanks Chelsea, i really fancy using them but i dont think i can really fade the pure black to the 8b, or i'm probably just doing wrong xD
 
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i agree malliga ehehe i'm really trying to draw one a day but probably small pieces likes chopper said and emphasize in quality, i've seen some on engraving hairs and then smudge with graphite or charcoal but i dont have to tool, i've tried a nail but it ruins the paper, how do you guys do it? thanks for the feedback ! :p
This video covers the concept quite well. There might be some better ones though:
 

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