Rotary machine vs rotary pen


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vaggeliskaz

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Hello,

I am looking to get me first tattoo machine/pen (rotary not coil)and i would like some help. (Untill now i have only tried stick and poke). What do you think is better, a rotary machine or a pen? I will not concentrate so much on fades and colours so i thought a pen will be more suitable in terms of lines, maintenance and also easier to use. I have also heard that tattoos from tattoo pens are not permanent cause the needle doesn't penetrate as deep as a machine would and i dont know if this is true. Can anyone help me choose or just give me some pros and cons for each of them ?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Depends on how much you're prepared to spend.....I use Coils, Rotary and pens.....Coils mainly for lining, rotaries and pens for colour packing and shading, rotaries and pens are really good for stipple shading.....but if I had to only be able to buy one machine, it would be the Inkjecta Flite Nano with changeable push bars ....they can pretty much do anything...
As for tattoos fading when using a pen machine, I would think that would be more of an application issue more than type of machine issue. Needle depth is controlled by the operator, not the machine and needle can be inserted into the skin as deep as it needs to go.
 

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Hello,

I am looking to get me first tattoo machine/pen (rotary not coil)and i would like some help. (Untill now i have only tried stick and poke). What do you think is better, a rotary machine or a pen? I will not concentrate so much on fades and colours so i thought a pen will be more suitable in terms of lines, maintenance and also easier to use. I have also heard that tattoos from tattoo pens are not permanent cause the needle doesn't penetrate as deep as a machine would and i dont know if this is true. Can anyone help me choose or just give me some pros and cons for each of them ?

Thanks in advance.
Quick reply from my tiny experience:
Coils : more noise and different penetration in the skin (often told as the best for lining)
Pens : less noise, different feeling for the hand flow as you usually have no wires (battteries) and less weight
Rotaries : less noise

That's all i can say and again, technique is the key to a good looking and long lasting tattoo, with experience you'll catch all that's needed.

Peace,

DKJ
 

vaggeliskaz

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Depends on how much you're prepared to spend.....I use Coils, Rotary and pens.....Coils mainly for lining, rotaries and pens for colour packing and shading, rotaries and pens are really good for stipple shading.....but if I had to only be able to buy one machine, it would be the Inkjecta Flite Nano with changeable push bars ....they can pretty much do anything...
As for tattoos fading when using a pen machine, I would think that would be more of an application issue more than type of machine issue. Needle depth is controlled by the operator, not the machine and needle can be inserted into the skin as deep as it needs to go.

Depends on how much you're prepared to spend.....I use Coils, Rotary and pens.....Coils mainly for lining, rotaries and pens for colour packing and shading, rotaries and pens are really good for stipple shading.....but if I had to only be able to buy one machine, it would be the Inkjecta Flite Nano with changeable push bars ....they can pretty much do anything...
As for tattoos fading when using a pen machine, I would think that would be more of an application issue more than type of machine issue. Needle depth is controlled by the operator, not the machine and needle can be inserted into the skin as deep as it needs to go.
Thanks a lot,i would also like to ask 2 more questions. I am looking to buy something like a tattoo kit and i have read good reviewes about 2 brands, dragonhwak and solong. Do you know anything about them?
When it comes to needles, all pens have this small needles or some of them have the classic needles for coil and rotary machines? And if they do, what is the diference between them in order to make a desicion?
 
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Dragonhawk and Solong are ok products if you are only just starting out, they are on the cheaper side and in my opinion probably only suitable for learning to tattoo on practice skin or other practice mediums....personally I think Tattoo Kits are a waste of money, filled with stuff to make it look like you are getting a lot for your money, some kits come with a number of machines (all are cheap and nasty and won't last long) a few needles, some gloves, a couple of sheets of stencil paper and some ink that should never be used on human skin.
As for needles, tattoo pens and some rotaries use Cartridge needle (the small ones) while Coil machines and some rotaries use needles on a needle bar (long ones) ....but you can buy cartridge grips that fit on Coil and Rotary machines so you can use Cartridge needles with these machines.
The configuration of both cartridge and traditional needles are the same and shouldn't make a difference with the result.
 

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Hey Vaggelis,
It seems you're just starting, so if i may advise you around that, i'd say try it before you put money into it: you never know if tattooing will really please you!

I bought a very cheap pack (50€) just to try on a fake skin.
After playing around with it, i decided to invest in more professional gear.
I'd say the minimum investment if you're going to actually tattoo people meaning you're into the rules of hygiene, starts at 500€ minimum.
Machine, needles, grips, power supply, gloves, protections (hygienic barriers for your client and you), towels, vaseline, ink, cups, stencil paper, stencil liquid... The minimal list is quite long but absolutly necessary.

And all this stuff will lose 50% of its value on resale, so i'd really recommend to try before you invest.

Peace,

DKJ
 

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