CNC P6 vs InkOne Narw (what is THROW?)

[ed_lorenzo]

Hello,
I think it is time for a second machine. As I am a noob.
I am torn between an InkOne Narw and a CNC P6
InkOne - a friend let me use one and I just LOVE it because of its forward balance; which feels quite stable.
CNC-P6 - have not used or touched one but I am looking at it for its adjustable throw.

What is throw anyways? Will the adjustable throw be enough of a factor to get the P6 over the Narw?

Thanks all in advance for all inputs.

Edit:
From where I am from, top shelf brands are not really available unless ordered direct from their websites and shipping is a killer. I am not into properly "investing" on a good machine yet. These two machines I have are currently the only ones readily available that are within my budget.

 

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All machines have adjustable throw, one way or the other. This is basically just how far you can stick or hang the needles out, changes nothing else.

Some machines have adjustable stroke…which is important. This is a different size cam that will impact on the speed the needle is travelling at a given setting (voltage). For example on an Axys Valhalla, a machine with multiple stroke settings, the needle will puncture the skin 120 time per second (Hz or CPS (cycles per second)) at 9V. However, if you set the stroke length to 4.2 mm, it will hit the skin with more force (speed of travel of the cam pin for cam centre) than If you set the stroke at 2.5mm..

To simplify, Volts will make a machine hit more times per second, stroke length will change the force at which the needle hits the skin.

Bishop’s hardest hitting machine has a 5mm stroke length, its weakest hitting machine (Shader) has a stroke length of 3.5 mm (though this machine also has built in give to dampen the hit of the needle further).

 

[Patch72]

I’ve got the cnc p6,it’s not a bad machine/pen to use as long as you wrap it properly,some carts not all are a little harder to place in the p6,runs fine under battery or power supply.pushes most needle suzes and groups well,if you go on the cnc website your get a good deal
I just prefer Coils

 

[ed_lorenzo]

To simplify, Volts will make a machine hit more times per second, stroke length will change the force at which the needle hits the skin.

Golden! Thank you so much!

 

[ed_lorenzo]

I’ve got the cnc p6,it’s not a bad machine/pen to use as long as you wrap it properly,some carts not all are a little harder to place in the p6,runs fine under battery or power supply.pushes most needle suzes and groups well,if you go on the cnc website your get a good deal
I just prefer Coils

Feedback from someone who has used it is awesome. I know its not the best out there but it's where my budget allows me

 

[MirandM]

I have a CNC Q2, excellent machine, very reliable. Mainly use it with a battery and because it's rather short makes a perfect balance with the battery attached. Very solid aluminium construction.

 

[ed_lorenzo]

To simplify, Volts will make a machine hit more times per second, stroke length will change the force at which the needle hits the skin.

I forgot to ask.
Hard needle hit = ?
Soft needle hit = ?

 

[ed_lorenzo]

I have a CNC Q2, excellent machine, very reliable. Mainly use it with a battery and because it's rather short makes a perfect balance with the battery attached. Very solid aluminium construction.

This is actually what I liked with the InkOne Narw; it was forward balanced even with the batter; which made it feel more stable.
But does the Q2 have that adjustable stroke thing? That's the thing that is edging off the InkOne for me.

 

[MirandM]

This is actually what I liked with the InkOne Narw; it was forward balanced even with the batter; which made it feel more stable.
But does the Q2 have that adjustable stroke thing? That's the thing that is edging off the InkOne for me.

Stroke depth/length of course, it has a clicking ring for that. Stroke hit or strength no.
And:

To simplify, Volts will make a machine hit more times per second, stroke length will change the force at which the needle hits the skin.

Not much more to it really, it's a basic pen machine, aluminium body, sturdy with good grip and very reliable.